Is anybody happy with HostMonster?

[sfaid]

I moved my hosting here this week and the more I explore the email features the more frustrated I get.:confused:
It seems I can not setup a straight redirect account, the original account keeps a copy. I have +30 email accounts that I want to all go to my primary account. I do NOT want to wait 15 minutes for Outlook to login to +30 accounts everytime I check email.
cc@, onlinebills@ foodtv@, mightsellmyaddress@, etc..
Is there something I'm missing? Can I redirect to one account without retaining a copy that I need to go clear out?
Also I had used a group list to send bills etc (from a redirect/Forward account) to my wife's and my email address. Seems I can not setup a email group (maillist) that doesn't require subscription. Crap, that would just send more junk to accounts (cc@, etc) that I don't want to have to go cleanout. Where do they get off restricting functionality like this? From what I read on the MailMan site it does support maillists accepting email from non-subscribers.
I can't see how that would matter to HostMonster. If someone abuses it in some way unimaginable to me then drop them, don't penalize everyone!!
Also, with my last hoster if I sent an email to 40 people it took about 3 seconds. This crappy place ties up my PC for 3 minutes. WTF!!!!!!!
Even more frustrating is working with MailList subscribers! Is there a way to look at all of them at one rather then one letter of the alphabet?:mad:

Also, is there a way to deal with all my email setup/config via ssh/scripts?

I'm sure most use HostMonster for webpage hosting which is secondary to me. My main focus is on personal email flexability.

Sign me
Thinking I made a poor decision with HostMonster.

[r2b2]

Just use email forwarders

[shadmego]

I am sorry you feel this way about Hostmonster. The good news is (I think) you still get a 14 day money back guarantee. You still have a few days to decide.

As for forwarding all your emails into a single account. That is easy. Go to the email forwarding link in your Cpanel page under the Mail section. I currently have three emails being forwarded to the only one I check so far. Nothing I've noticed yet for performance issues.

As for your mail list (or group) issues, I'm not sure I fully understand what you are trying to do. I don't get why you would want to create a mail list that didn't require some type of subscription process. The potential for abuse would be exponential, not to mention the risks to everyone else that is sharing the server you are on. Having said that, I do believe you can set up Mail man and a program called Dada Mail to handle the rest of your concerns. Both programs can be set up to send one email to a bunch of people. You can even configure them to accept emails from addresses that aren't a part of the list.

As far as the speed with which you can send emails out, I'm really not sure how your own pc would be tied up with waiting. Once you send the message, the server is the computer doing the work, not your pc.

As far as command line access to your account, if you provide a photocopy of your drivers license or any other identification card to Hostmonster, they will turn on ssh access for you. All you need to is ask. The reason they do this is because of the potential for abuse when using command line tools. They want to know who to contact when such abuse presents itself.

I'm also slightly confused as to why you chose to open an account with a "web hosting" company when all you wanted was email support. I believe there are several companies out there that cater to the sort of support you are actually looking for, though I'm just about positive you can accomplish most, if not all, of your requirements with Hostmonster. All it will take is a calmer attitude and a willingness to ask questions and wait for answers.

I hate to see you go, but you must do what you must do.

~regards,
Shadmego

[sfaid]

If I try and setup an Forwarder without having an email account created it ignores my "forward to" input and replaces it with the default account on my primary domain. If I trick it and create an email, then forward to my MailList, then delete the primary account it does forward to the MailList account, bet then the MailList wants the original sender to subscribe.

Example; (Names changed)
Primary domain; zzz.net
Secondary domain; 123.com
Outside domain; abc.org

create email account a@123.com
create forwarder a@123.com -> b@123.com(MailList)
remove a@123.com
Send email to a@123.com from c@abc.org(outside)
List manager gets an authorization form for c@abc.org(outside) to subscribe to b@123.com(MAilList)

If I create a forwarder a@123.com to a local address b@123.com(MailList) without a local email account setup it accepts it but when I go back in it changed the forward to address to z@zzz.net(my primary domains default email address).

[sfaid]

Shadmego, funny but in the last three years I never got one spam to my group list (MailList) that I used to redirect bills to my wife and my accounts.
Sure I may have gotten SPAM on one of the Forward addresses that I did put out, but none directly to my MailList address.
It is not an address that would ever be published. Heck I wouldn't care if it were 1z3hxojn234eidsc. It does matter what it is as long as I can have different outside email accounts to use for different groups, bills, credit cards, zdnet, foodtv, etc. If one starts getting spam I know who has been given that address and shut it down. I just want an address to forward what it recieves (without saving a copy) to another address that sends it to two accounts (my wifes and mine).

[shadmego]

I'm afraid I don't understand exactly what you are trying to accomplish. This is the fourth or fifth time I've erased what I was saying to try and help you, but I simply don't understand your situation.

You should look into gmail for your domain. You can set it up to forward ALL your mail from hostmonster to the gmail servers, while keeping your domain name "zzz.net". This would effectively stop hostmonster servers from managing your email addresses, but you can create groups in gmail that might be able to handle what it is you are trying to get set up.

It's worth a try.

Sorry I can't quite get what you are asking for, but I'm also not nearly the most intelligent person in the forums. Give it a couple of days and I'd be willing to bet someone will come with the knowhow you are looking for.

If I can be of any more assistance, just let me know.

~regards,
Shadmego

[r2b2]

create email account a@123.com
create forwarder a@123.com -> b@123.com(MailList)
remove a@123.com


That may be the issue - you don't create the email account first. It may be that the mail software is getting really confused about trying to add a forwarder to an existing address and then removing it.

So, in summary, just create the forwarder and miss out the other two steps...

[sdasevne]

I think part of the problem is that "forwarding" does not really forward; it just makes another copy of the email and sends it to a specified address. The original email still accumulates in HM and has to be cleared out manually. The cPanel says "Forwarders allow you to send a copy of all mail from one email address to another. ... Note that the mail for a forwarded email address will still be delivered to that address as well."

Too bad there isn't real forwarding instead of copying.

[sfaid]

If you create a forwarder without the same name local email account existing it ignores your "forward to" address and inserts your default accout from your primary account domain.

[shadmego]

I think part of the problem is that "forwarding" does not really forward; it just makes another copy of the email and sends it to a specified address. The original email still accumulates in HM and has to be cleared out manually. The cPanel says "Forwarders allow you to send a copy of all mail from one email address to another. ... Note that the mail for a forwarded email address will still be delivered to that address as well."

Too bad there isn't real forwarding instead of copying.

While true that forwarding makes a copy of the message for the receiving account, if the forwarding account doesn't exist, then there will be nowhere for the message to sit .. effectively NOT saving the message except at the receiving account. I just tested this and then went back and checked all my other active accounts. No emails were saved.

[r2b2]

If you create a forwarder without the same name local email account existing it ignores your "forward to" address and inserts your default accout from your primary account domain.

It works ok for me - although they are all going to other domain names....

Have you tried contacting the Hostmonster support guys?

[sfaid]

Maybe my only real problem is Mail Lists.
When I take them out of the mix things look much brighter.
I have two real email accounts; user1 & user2
I create a forwarder forward1 -> user1
I create a forwarder forward1 -> user2
Both get the email sent to forward1.

I have SSH commandline access.
Does anyone know if email/MailList maintenace can be done from the commandline?
Is there a way to display or dump a list of all members of a MailList.
Displaying only names starting with one character of the alphabet at a time is a pain.

[shadmego]

The mail list program you keep referring to is called Mailman. A search through the Internet will reveal a plethora of information. I do not think, however, that users have access to much command line capability for Mailman. I think it is mostly web-based. The settings that are changeable via command line are most likely reserved for the root user.